May 7, 2008
Cardinal Toppo on a Proposed
Marian Dogma
A Look at What It Could Mean for Dialogue
RANCHI, India, MAY 5, 2008 (Zenit.org).- Proclaiming Mary as the
Spiritual Mother of All Humanity would benefit ecumenical and
interreligious dialogue because it would help non-Catholics to
understand many things about the Mother of God, says Cardinal
Telesphore Toppo.
The archbishop of Ranchi and former president of the episcopal
conference of India is one of the five cardinal co-sponsors of
the 2005 International Symposium on Marian Co-redemption, held
in Fatima, who are asking Benedict XVI to declare a fifth Marian
dogma.
The petition urges the Pope to proclaim Mary "the Spiritual
Mother of All Humanity, the co-redemptrix with Jesus the
redeemer, mediatrix of all graces with Jesus the one mediator,
and advocate with Jesus Christ on behalf of the human race."
In this interview with ZENIT, Cardinal Toppo discusses his views
in favor of the proposed dogma.
Q: Previously this year, you and four other cardinals sent out a
letter to the world's cardinals and bishops, inviting them to
join in your petition for a new dogma of the spiritual
motherhood of Mary. How did they respond?
Cardinal Toppo: Although the majority of cardinals and bishops
sent their letters of support for the fifth Marian dogma
directly to the Holy Father, we also received numerous copies of
enthusiastic letters of support for this dogma from cardinals
and bishops from all five continents. Many of the letters spoke
of the need for the dogma and Our Lady's greatest possible
intercession for the troubled situation for the world today,
including the rampant war and terrorism, religious persecution,
moral depravity, family breakdown and even natural disasters.
The general consensus of the letters from my brother cardinals
and bishops is that now is the time for this fifth Marian dogma
as a remedy for the unique difficulties facing the world. As she
did in the Upper Room and in the early Church, Our Lady can
intercede like no one else for a new release of the Holy Spirit
to bring new grace, peace and protection for the Church and for
the world.
Q: Have you spoken directly to Benedict XVI regarding the
petition for the fifth Marian dogma?
Cardinal Toppo: On June 3, 2006, on the eve of Pentecost, I was
privileged to have a private audience with His Holiness, during
which I presented the Holy Father the "acta" of theological
presentations from the 2005 Fatima symposium on Mary as the co-redemptrix.
I also presented him with the Latin "votum" -- or petition --
for the solemn papal definition of Our Lady as the spiritual
mother of all peoples, co-redemptrix, mediatrix of all graces
and advocate, which already at that time was signed by a
significant number of cardinals, archbishops and bishops.
During our 15-minute audience, the Holy Father received the acta
and votum with keen interest. He was surprised that so many
cardinals and bishops had already signed the votum. He then
stated that he would read the acta of theological presentations
on the co-redemptrix. In the last few months, he has received
still many more petitions for this Marian dogma from the present
College of Cardinals and bishops.
Q: A principal objection posed against the proclamation of a new
Marian dogma is that it would be counterproductive to the
Church's mission of ecumenism and interreligious dialogue. And
yet, in the presentations submitted to Benedict XVI, your own
presentation was titled "Mary Co-redemptrix as a Help in the
Pursuit of Interreligious Dialogue." Can you explain why you
believe this dogma could actually help ecumenism and dialogue
with other faiths?
Cardinal Toppo: In interreligious dialogue, it is of the utmost
importance that both sides come to know each other's faith
position as accurately as possible. Now it is my contention that
a Catholic's presentation and explanation of Mary's title as co-redemptrix
would greatly help his or her dialogue partner to understand
correctly some basics of the Church's teaching.
The title co-redemptrix would naturally provide the occasion to
present our doctrine concerning the redeemer and the mystery of
redemption, the primacy of God's initiative, and the absolutely
uncontestable role of the uniqueness of Jesus as the divine
redeemer.
That being the true position, the question will surely be raised
as to how then we can speak of Mary as co-redemptrix. This truth
concerning Redemption is to be complemented with the
indispensable need for the cooperation of the human beneficiary.
Humans can sin by themselves, but they cannot save by
themselves.
In other words, cooperation is required, for each one according
to the freely designed and chosen plan of God. This being the
case, we can help our partners in dialogue understand many
things about Mary: her cooperation with and submission to the
plan of God, leading her to become the Mother of Jesus; her
closeness to Jesus at the crucifixion as co-redemptrix; her
intercessory advocacy and influence with Jesus on our behalf;
her being Mother of the Church, Queen of Heaven and Mediatrix of
All Graces.
Mary's cooperation helps all Christians and even non-Christians
to understand our own required cooperation with Jesus and with
his grace for our salvation.
Q: How do you think non-Catholic Christians would respond to a
dogma of Mary's spiritual motherhood of all peoples, and what do
you think would be the response of the large Hindu population
within your region?
Cardinal Toppo: I have no doubt that non-Catholic Christians
participating in ecumenical dialogue, either will find this
position acceptable or at least will have no valid or convincing
argument against it.
For example, this is what happened in the past to a Lutheran
tribal girl of Ranchi in 1890 when she discovered that Catholics
actually do not worship Mary as a goddess, though they honor her
because of her being the mother of Jesus. She -- Ruth Kispotta
-- joined the Catholic Church and founded our first indigenous
congregation: the Daughters of St. Anne, Ranchi.
Adherents and followers of non-Christian faiths readily
understand our position in this matter. This would also explain
how it is that so many non-Christians flock to shrines of Our
Lady all over the world, including within the vast continent of
Asia. They felt drawn to Mary because of her proximity to Jesus.
There is an Indian shrine in honor of "Dhori Ma," also known as
the Lady of the Mines, based on a statue discovered by Hindu
coal miners at Dhori. Today this statue of Our Lady is venerated
by tens of thousands: Christians, Hindus, Muslims. All
appreciate the Mother who takes care of her children and who is
entirely at their service.
Q: How do you think a new Marian dogma would affect our present
relationship with the Muslim community and our dialogue with
them?
Cardinal Toppo: A presentation of Mary as co-redemptrix would be
especially appreciated in dialogue with Muslims, for the simple
reason that Mary is already well known to them from the Quran
itself. Muslims revere Mary as the "greatest of women," sinless
and ever virgin. She is a woman of great dignity and her role
and significance is acknowledged in the Quran, in the Hadith and
in the piety of daily Muslim life.
One can say, without hesitation, that Mary has been, is and
remains a true role model for both Muslims and Christians. She
is a wonderful help in our interreligious dialogue. The correct
presentation of Mary co-redemptrix provides a smooth path to the
discovery of Catholic truth and encourages all sincere persons
to cooperate with the initiatives of the loving and attractive
God whose mercy is from age to age.
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