Pope's Q-and-A Session With Roman Clergy, Part 1
On the Importance of the Permanent
Diaconate
VATICAN CITY, FEB. 11, 2008 (Zenit.org).-
Following a Lenten tradition, Benedict XVI met Thursday with
parish priests and clergy of the Diocese of Rome. During the
meeting, the participants asked the Pope questions. Here is a
translation of the first question and the Holy Father's answer.
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[Deacon Giuseppe Corona:]
Holy Father, I would like first of all to
express my gratitude and that of my brother deacons for the
ministry that the Church so providentially has taken up again
with the [Second Vatican] Council, a ministry that allows us to
fully express our vocation. We are committed in a great variety
of works that we carry out in vastly different environments:
family, work, parish, society, also the missions of Africa and
Latin America -- areas that you indicated for us in the
audience you granted us on the occasion of the 25th
anniversary of the diaconate of the Diocese of Rome.
Now our numbers have grown -- there are
108 of us. And we would like for you to indicate a pastoral
initiative that could become a sign of a more incisive presence
of the permanent diaconate in the city of Rome, as it happened
in the first centuries of the Roman Church. In fact, sharing a
significant, common objective, on one hand increases the
cohesion of diaconal fraternity and on the other, would give
greater visibility to our service in this city. We present you,
Holy Father, the desire that you indicate to us an initiative
that we can share in the way and the manner that you wish to
specify. In the name of all the deacons, I greet you, Holy
Father, with filial affection.
[Benedict XVI:]
Thank you for this testimony as one of the
more than 100 deacons of Rome. I would like to also express my
joy and my gratitude for the Council, because it revived this
important ministry in the universal Church. I should say that
when I was archbishop of Munich, I didn't find perhaps more than
three or four deacons, and I very much favored this ministry
because it seemed to me to belong to the richness of the
sacramental ministry in the Church. At the same time, it can
equally be the link between the lay world, the professional
world, and the world of the priestly ministry -- given that many
deacons continue carrying out their professions and maintain
their positions -- important or those of a simple life -- while
on Saturday and Sunday they work in the Church. In this way, you
give witness in the world of today, as well as in the working
world, of the presence of faith, of the sacramental ministry and
the diaconal dimension of the sacrament of Orders. This seems
very important to me: the visibility of the diaconal dimension.
Naturally as well, every priest continues
being a deacon, and should always think of this dimension,
because the Lord himself made himself our minister, our deacon.
We can think of the gesture of the washing of the feet, with
which he explicitly shows that the master, the Lord, acts as a
deacon and wants those who follow him to be deacons, that they
fulfill this role for humanity, to the point that they also help
to wash the dirtied feet of the men entrusted to us. This
dimension seems very important to me.
On this occasion, I bring to mind --
though it is perhaps not immediately inherent to the theme -- a
simple experience that Paul VI noted. Each day of the Council,
the Gospel was enthroned. And the Pontiff told those in charge
of the ceremony that he would like one time to be the one who
enthrones the Gospel. They told him no, this is the job of the
deacons, not of the Pope. He wrote in his diary: But I am also a
deacon, I continue being a deacon, and I would like to also
exercise this ministry of the diaconate placing the word of God
on its throne. Thus, this concerns all of us. Priests continue
being deacons, and the deacons make explicit in the Church and
in the world this diaconal dimension of our ministry. This
liturgical enthroning of the word of God each day during the
Council was always for us a gesture of great importance: It told
us who was the true Lord of that assembly; it told us that the
word of God was on the throne and that we exercise our ministry
to listen and to interpret, to offer to the others this word. It
is broadly significant for all that we do: enthroning in the
world the word of God, the living word, Christ. May it really be
him who governs our personal life and our life in the parishes.
Now, you have asked me a question that, I
must say, goes a bit beyond my strengths: What would be the
tasks proper to the deacons of Rome. I know that the cardinal
vicar knows much better than I the real situations of the city
and the diocesan community of Rome. I think that one
characteristic of the ministry of the deacons is precisely the
multiplicity of the diaconate's applications. In the
International Theological Commission, a few years ago, we
studied at length the diaconate in the history and also the
present of the Church. And we discovered just that: There is not
just one profile. What they should do varies, depending on the
preparation of the persons and the situations in which they find
themselves. There can be applications and activities that are
very different, always in communion with the bishop and with the
parish, naturally. In the various situations, various
possibilities arise, also depending on the professional
preparation that these deacons could have. They could be
committed in the cultural sector, which is so important today,
or they could have a voice and an important post in the
educational realm. We are thinking this year precisely of the
problem of education as central to our future, and the future of
humanity.
Certainly the sector of charity was in
Rome the original sector, because those called presbyters and
deacons were centers of Christian charity. This was from the
beginning in the city of Rome a fundamental area. In my
encyclical "Deus Caritas Est," I showed that not just preaching
and the liturgy are essential for the Church and for the
ministry of the Church, but rather equally important is the
service of caritas -- in its multiple dimensions -- for the
poor, the needy. Thus, I hope that all the time, in the whole
diocese, even if in distinct situations, this continues being a
fundamental dimension, and also a priority for the commitment of
the deacons, even if not the only one, as is also shown in the
early Church, where the seven deacons were chosen precisely to
permit the apostles to dedicate themselves to prayer, liturgy
and preaching. Also afterward, Stephen found himself in the
situation of having to preach to the Greeks, to the Jews who
spoke Greek, and thus the field of preaching was amplified. He
is conditioned, we could say, by the cultural situation, where
he has a voice to make present in that sector the word of God.
In that way, he makes more possible the universality of the
Christian testimony, opening the doors to St. Paul who witnessed
his stoning, and later, in a certain sense, was his successor in
the universalization of the word of God. I don't know if the
cardinal vicar would like to add something; I'm not as close to
the concrete situations.
[Cardinal Camillo Ruini, the Pope's vicar
for the Diocese of Rome:]
Holy Father, I can just confirm, as you
said, that also concretely in Rome, the deacons work in many
sectors, for the most part, in parishes, where they concern
themselves with the ministry of charity; but, for example, many
are also involved in ministry to the family. Since almost all of
the deacons are married, they offer marriage preparation, give
follow-up to young couples, and things like that. They also
offer a significant contribution to the ministry of health care;
they help also in the vicariate -- where some of them work --
and as you heard, in missions. There is a certain missionary
presence of deacons. I think that, naturally, in the numerical
plane, the greatest commitment is in the parishes, but there
also exist other sectors that are also opening, and precisely
because of this, we now have more than a hundred permanent
deacons.
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Pope's Q-and-A Session With Roman Clergy, Part 2
On What to Do With the Youth
VATICAN CITY, FEB. 12, 2008 (Zenit.org).-
Following a Lenten tradition, Benedict XVI met Thursday with
parish priests and clergy of the Diocese of Rome. During the
meeting, the participants asked the Pope questions. Here is a
translation of the second question and the Holy Father's answer.
Part 1 appeared
Monday.
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[Father Graziano Bonfitto, from the parish
of Ognissanti:]
Holy Father, I am originally from a town
in the province of Foggia, San Marco in Lamis. I am a religious
in the order of Don Orione [Sons of Divine Providence] and have
been a priest for a year and a half, currently serving as the
vice pastor in the parish of Ognissanti, in the Appio
neighborhood. I won't hide my excitement from you, and also the
incredible joy I have in this moment, which is such a great
privilege for me. You are the bishop and the shepherd of our
diocesan Church, but you are also the Pope and thus the pastor
of the universal Church. Because of this, my excitement grows
uncontrollably. I would first like to express my gratitude for
all that, day after day, you do, not only for our Diocese of
Rome, but for the entire Church. Your words and your gestures,
your attention toward us, the people of God, are signs of the
love and the closeness that you foster for all of us, and each
one of us.
My priestly apostolate is carried out
above all with youth. It is precisely in their name that I would
like to thank you today. My holy founder, St. Luigi Orione, said
that youth are the sun or the storm of the morning. I think that
in this historical moment in which we find ourselves, youth are
both the sun and the storm, not of the morning, but of now. As
youth we now feel, more than ever, the strong need for
certainties. We want sincerity, freedom, justice and peace. We
want to count on people who walk with us, who listen to us, like
Christ with the disciples of Emmaus. Youth desire people capable
of marking the path to liberty, responsibility, love, truth.
That is, the youth of today have an unquenchable thirst for
Christ: a thirst for joyful witnesses who have found Jesus and
have staked their whole existence on him. The youth want a
Church always with feet on the ground and ever closer to their
needs. They want her present in their life decisions, even
though a certain sensation of indifference toward the Church
persists in them. Youth seek a trustworthy hope -- as you wrote
in your last letter directed to the faithful of Rome -- to avoid
living without God.
Holy Father -- permit me to call you Papa
-- how difficult it is to live in God, with God and for God. The
youth feel attacked on so many fronts. There are so many false
prophets, salesmen of illusions. There are too many proclaimers
of false truths and ignoble ideals. With all of this, youth who
believe today -- even feeling that they are trapped -- are
convinced that God is the hope that resists every disillusion,
that only his love cannot be destroyed by death, even if most of
the time, it is not easy to find the space or the courage to
give witness. What to do then? How to act? Is it truly worth it
to continue staking one's life on Christ? Life, the family,
love, joy, justice, respect of others' opinions, liberty,
prayer, charity -- are they still values to defend? The life of
the saints, measured by the beatitudes -- is this a life
adequate for man, for the youth of the third millennium?
Thank you so much for your attention, your
affection and your consideration for the youth. The youth are
with you: They esteem you, they love you and they listen to you.
Stay close, show us with ever greater strength the path that
leads to Christ, the way, the truth and the life. Help us to fly
high, ever higher. And pray for us always. Thank you.
[Benedict XVI:]
Thank you for this beautiful testimony of
a young priest who is with the youth, who accompanies them, and
as you have said, helps them to walk with Christ, with Jesus.
What to say? All of us know how difficult
it is for youth today to live as Christians. The cultural
context and the mass media offer everything contrary to the path
that leads to Christ. It precisely seems that it makes it
impossible to see Christ as the center of life and live a life
as Jesus shows us. Nevertheless, it also seems to me that many
feel more and more the inadequacy of these offers, of this style
of life that in the end, leaves one empty.
In this sense, it seems to me that the
readings precisely from today's liturgy, from Deuteronomy
[30:15-20] and the Gospel passage from Luke [9:22-25] respond to
what we should essentially say to youth and always to ourselves.
As you have mentioned, sincerity is fundamental. Youth should
perceive that we don't say words we don't ourselves live, but
rather that we speak because we have found and look to find each
day the truth as truth for my life. Only if we are on this path,
if we ourselves try to assimilate this life and associate our
lives with that of the Lord, then our words can also be credible
and have a visible and convincing logic. I insist: Today this is
the great and fundamental norm, not only for Lent but for all
Christian life: Choose life. Before you, you have death and
life: Choose life.
And it seems that the answer is natural.
There are only a few people who nourish in their depths a will
for destruction, for death, of no longer wanting existence and
life, because everything is contrary for them. Unfortunately, on
the other hand, this is a phenomenon that is growing. With all
the contradictions, the false promises, in the end life seems
contradictory. It is no longer a gift, but a condemnation and
thus there are those who want death more than life. But
normally, man responds: Yes, I want life.
The question continues being how to find
life, what to choose, how to choose life. And we know the offers
generally made: Go to the disco, obtain everything possible,
consider liberty as doing everything you want, whatever occurs
to you in any given moment. But we know on the other hand -- and
we can show it -- that this is a false path, because in the end,
life is not found there, but rather the abyss of nothingness.
Choose life. The reading says it: God is
your life, you have chosen life and you have made the choice:
God. This seems fundamental to me. Only in this way are our
horizons broad enough and only in this way do we remain within
the fount of life, which is stronger than death, stronger than
all of the threats of death. Thus, the fundamental choice is
this one that is indicated: Choose God. It is necessary to
understand that one who begins a life without God in the end
finds himself in darkness, even though there can be moments in
which it seems he has discovered life.
Another step is how to find God, how to
choose God. Here we arrive to the Gospel: God is not a stranger,
a hypothesis of the first cause of the cosmos. God has flesh and
bones. He is one of us. We know him with his face, with his
name. It is Jesus Christ who speaks to us in the Gospel. He is
man and he is God. And being God, he chose man to make it
possible for us to choose God. Thus it is necessary to enter
into knowledge of and afterward friendship with Jesus, to walk
with him.
I consider this the fundamental point of
our pastoral care for youth, for everyone, but above all for
youth: Call their attention to the choice of God, who is life.
To the fact that God exists. And he exists in a very concrete
way. And teach them friendship with Jesus Christ.
There is also a third step. This
friendship with Jesus is not a friendship with a person who
isn't real, with someone who belongs to the past, or is far from
man at the right hand of God. He is present in his body, which
continues to be a body of flesh and bones: It is the Church, the
communion of the Church. We should construct and make
communities that are more accessible and reflect the great
community of the living Church. It is everything: the living
experience of the community, with all of its human weaknesses,
but nevertheless real, with a clear path and a solid sacramental
life in which we can also touch what can seem so far away -- the
presence of the Lord. In this way, we can also learn the
commandments -- to return to Deuteronomy, from where I began.
Because the reading says: To choose God means to choose
according to his Word, to live according to his Word. For a
moment this seems almost positivist: They are imperatives. But
first is the gift -- his friendship. Later we can understand
that the indicators of the path are explanations of the reality
of this friendship of ours.
We can say that this is a general
overview, which flows out of contact with sacred Scripture and
the life of the Church each day. Afterward it is translated step
by step in the concrete encounters with youth: To guide them in
their dialogue with Jesus in prayer, in the reading of sacred
Scripture -- reading in common, above all, but also personal --
and sacramental life. These are all steps to make these
experiences present in the professional life, even though this
realm is frequently marked by the total absence of God and by
the apparent impossibility of seeing him present. But precisely
then, through our life and our experience of God, we should try
to make the presence of Christ enter into this world far from
God.
Thirst for God exists. A short time ago, I
received the "ad limina" visit of bishops from a country in
which more than 50% are declared atheists or agnostics. But they
told me, in reality all of them are thirsting for God. This
thirst exists, though hidden. Because of this, let's start
beforehand, with the youth we can find. Let's form communities
in which the Church is reflected; let's learn friendship with
Jesus. And in this way, full of this joy and this experience, we
can also today make God present in this world of ours.
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Pope's Q-and-A Session With Roman Clergy, Part 3
On Reaching Out to a Secular World
VATICAN CITY, FEB. 13, 2008 (Zenit.org).-
Following a Lenten tradition, Benedict XVI met Thursday with
parish priests and clergy of the Diocese of Rome. During the
meeting, the participants asked the Pope questions. Here is a
translation of the third question and the Holy Father's answer.
Parts 1 and 2 appeared
Monday and
Tuesday.
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[Father Paolo Tammi, pastor at St. Pius X Parish and religion
professor:]
I would like to extend to you just one of the many expressions
of gratitude for the effort and the passion with which you have
written the book about Jesus of Nazareth, a text that, you
yourself have said, is not an act of the magisterium, but the
fruit of your personal search for the face of God. It has
contributed to putting the person of Jesus Christ in the center
of Christianity and certainly it is contributing -- and will
continue to do so -- to a patient righting of the partial
visions of the Christian event, such as the political vision, in
which a great part of my adolescence and that of my
contemporaries developed; or the moralist vision, too insistent
-- in my opinion -- in Catholic preaching; or finally the vision
that likes to define itself as demythologizing the figure of
Jesus Christ, like that of certain teachers of secular thought
who truly think it very normal to suddenly concern themselves
now with the Founder of Christianity and his human adventure to
deny his historicity or to attribute his divinity to a fantasy
of the apostolic Church.
You, on the other hand, do not cease to teach us, Your Holiness,
that Jesus is truly everything, that with him, man and God, it's
only possible to fall in love; that it is not merely the same as
belonging to a club, supposing that such a thing exists, or
spouting off pretty phrases about him just to protect a cultural
identity. I limit myself to add that in a secular environment
like a school, where historical and philosophical motivations in
favor or against religion obviously have their legitimate space,
I see every day that the kids maintain a great emotional
distance, whereas I have seem them be moved in Assisi -- where I
took them a few days ago -- upon hearing a passionate testimony
of a young friar minor. I ask you: How can the life of a priest
become ever more passionate with the essential, which is the
Spouse Jesus? And also, how can you see when a priest is in love
with Jesus? I know that you have answered this several times,
but it's certain that your answer can help or correct us, to
renew our hope. I ask you to answer this again here with your
priests.
[Benedict XVI:]
How can I correct the parish priests, who are working so well?
We can only help each other. So, you are familiar with this
secular environment not only from an intellectual distance, but
above all from an emotional one, with faith. And we should,
according to circumstances, find the way to build bridges. It
seems to me that the situations are difficult, but you are
right. We should always think: What is essential? Even if
afterward the point varies in which it is possible to link in
the kerygma, the context, the way of acting. But the question
should always be: What is essential? What has to be discovered?
What would I like to give? And here, I always repeat: The
essential is God.
If we don't speak of God, if God is not discovered, we are
always stuck in secondary things. Thus it seems fundamental to
me that the question "Does God exist" is at least proposed. And
that of, How could I live without God? Is God truly an important
reality for me?
It continues to impress me that the First Vatican Council would
have wanted precisely to bring this dialogue to the table, to
understand God with reason -- even if in the historical
situation in which we find ourselves we need God to help us and
purify our reason. It seems that already there is a search to
respond to this challenge posed by a secular environment
regarding God as the fundamental question, and then regarding
Christ as God's answer. Naturally, I would say that the "preambula
fidei" exist, that perhaps they are the first step to open the
heart and the mind to God: the natural virtues.
Recently I received a visit from a head of state who told me, I
am not a religious person, the foundation of my life is
Aristotelian ethics. This is already something very good, and it
places us beside St. Thomas, on the path toward Thomas'
synthesis. And therefore, this could be a point of contact: To
learn and to make understandable the importance for human
coexistence of this rational ethics, that afterward interiorly
opens -- if its lived in its consequences -- to the question of
God, to the responsibility before God.
So it seems to me that, on one hand, we should have clear before
us what is the essential that we want to and should transmit to
the others and what are the "preambula" in the situations in
which we can take the first steps. In truth, today a first
ethical education is a fundamental step. This is also what
happened in ancient Christianity. Cyprian, for example, tells us
that his life before was totally dissolute. Afterward, living in
the catechumenal community, he learned a fundamental ethics and
in that way, the path toward God opened. Also St. Ambrose in the
Easter Vigil says: Until now we have spoken of morality, now we
move on to mystery.
They had traveled the journey of the "preambula fidei" with a
fundamental education in ethics, which created the possibility
of understanding the mystery of God. Therefore, I would say that
perhaps we should carry out an interaction with education in
ethics -- so important today -- on one hand, also with its
pragmatic evidence, and at the same time not omit the question
of God. And in this intertwining of two paths, it seems to me
that perhaps we manage to open ourselves a bit to this God who
alone can give light.
[Translation by Kathleen Naab]
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